Registration will lead to confiscation

Started by Frosty, April 13, 2013, 10:40:28 am

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April 14, 2013, 06:09:49 pm #15 Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 06:24:28 pm by underhill
Quote from: RadioRay on April 14, 2013, 05:22:23 pm
Mr. Underhill -

I'd like to olsten to that file, but the link gives me a file not found error.  Are you able to re-check this link, please?  I reeeeeeeeeeeealy like radio!!!   :D

>de RadioRay ..._ ._

I have the file, the link to the sound file never worked correctly, but when it was fresh, I figured out how to get it and did.  JGF never did fix the link, and doesn't use the download service anymore I think, so there that is.

if you PM' me, I can send to those interested.  File is mp3, is 13.4MB in size, and runs for 58 or so minutes.

So I can send to any email that is able to handle a 14MB attachment.  Not sure that it should be attached to our site here, due to copyrite issues, but I dont' think that should apply if i send it via email.

Mr RadioRay, sent you a pm.




I heard a local ham here say that amateur radio was the original internet !  ANd when I asked him what he meant' he said that the govt allowed us to get licensed so that the were radio stations setup everywhere that they could take over when needed and now the internet has take the place of amateur radio and they will now communicate over our computers instead of radio.


I've often thought about this, the idea of having my name on yet another gub'mint list, but I've decided not to worry about it. My theory is, if the feds already know my internet surfing habits, what property I own through public record information, all my banking transactions through FINCEN, my police record through the FBI enforcement network, my education proficiencies through school and university records, my utility providers, my name, my address, my social security number, my medical records through Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, insurance companies and agreements with care providers, my service records through the DoD, my employment and financial information through the IRS, my vehicles through the DMV, the route I take to work through GPS, who I talked to and when through agreements with telephone companies and whatever else they might want through any of my neighbors who go Quisling post-collapse, well... if they also know I have a ham radio license, I don't think it makes too much difference.


I consider it my patriotic duty to see how many government watch lists I can be placed on........... I think I'm doing quite well 8) .
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin



Quote from: White Tiger on April 14, 2013, 06:06:41 pm
Could be that I just finished reading "Going Home" by A. American (the "A" stands for "Angery"). Not giving anything away, but military direction finding, coupled to use of helicopters, seemed to be pretty easy to accomplish in the question is: is it that easy?

It won't change me from prepping, but it might change some aspects of how I prepare...

As a former intel puke during my youth, let me say, YES! it is that easy.  I've ridden around in EH-60 "QuickFix" birds.  They are the electronic warfare variant of the UH-60 Blackhawk.  They have/had interoperability with ground based receiver/direction finding systems as well as electronic counter-measures (aka jamming) platforms.  Back when I was in that sort of line of work we used to jam with an ammo crate full of CDs.  We called ourselves KPIG Radio, "the Voice of Hohenfels!".  We could also "net" three platforms together and get a "fix" on a transmitter to a 10-digit grid coordinate...from about 30km away (50 if we had a QuickFix or GuardRail bird on the net).

If a signal goes out over the air that's not encrypted it can and will be picked up by friend and foe alike.


Quote from: Geek on April 13, 2013, 06:40:14 pm
Unfortunately we are losing our freedom slowly, sort of like the boiled frog.  Ignore guns or radios for a moment.  Do you think it is okay for some TSA cretin to stick his hands inside your pants?  What kind of country would allow such a thing?  Do you even think about the fact that is going on day to day?  When do you conclude we have lost?

I think they are just doing that which has been done many time in history which was penned by Machiavelli in the Prince and summed up like this by another guy many know:

"The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed."
-- Adolf Hitler


As for radio DF, as he said, airborne Direction Finding platforms could be a real problem.  However, there are tricks of the trade which do not eliminate the risks, but which can make it much more difficult for them to fox hunt especially on the lower HF bands.


de RadioRay ..._ ._
"When we cannot do the good we would, we must be ready to do the good we can."  ~ Matthew Henry


Quote from: RadioRay on October 28, 2013, 06:15:15 pm
However, there are tricks of the trade which do not eliminate the risks, but which can make it much more difficult for them to fox hunt especially on the lower HF bands.

So I assume we can be expecting a tutorial here on the forum? 8)
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin



I am perhaps too preoccupied with WWII in the Nordic countries. Norway was occupied by Nazi Germany from 1940 to 1945, and in 1941 the occupant decided to confiscate all radio receivers, almost half a million of them, from the general Norwegian population. Only the German occupants and their Norwegian Nazi collaborators were allowed to own radios. The main goal was to prevent Norwegians from listening to London where the King of Norway and his Government resided in exile. (They would later return triumphantly to Norway in 1945.)

Amateur radio was prohibited long before that, and all equipment was seized according to official registers of ham licensees, I was told by ham radio veterans many years ago.

Now this man had built himself a transceiver in 1939, but had postponed to sit for his ham license exam, so when the Germans arrived on April 9, 1940, he was safely under the surveillance radar:
See also:

I guess Gunvald Tomstad's story would have been a quite different one if he had been a registered ham.

I registered my ham license some fifty years ago. Then I had an interim period of forty years when I was not registered (did not pay yearly dues). A few years ago I contacted the relevant authority, and they gave me back my license and first C/S for life, for free. I can live with that.