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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: KK0G on October 13, 2013, 11:47:44 AM

Title: EBT Outage
Post by: KK0G on October 13, 2013, 11:47:44 AM
http://www.kwwl.com/story/23676104/2013/10/12/ebt-card-outage-prevents-purchases-in-iowa-and-other-states-contingency-available (http://www.kwwl.com/story/23676104/2013/10/12/ebt-card-outage-prevents-purchases-in-iowa-and-other-states-contingency-available)


I think most of us here are aware of the significance of an EBT outage. This time it was down for only 10 hours, what happens when if it goes down for days? Weeks? When people with a "government owes me" attitude are facing starvation, things can get real ugly real fast.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: Joe on October 13, 2013, 12:28:21 PM
I was reading some of the tweets that people had posted, system was only down a few hours and people where already talking about rioting. Anything past 24hrs I think we would see disorder start. The first thing that popped in my mind was it happened on a Banking 3 day weekend.

Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: RadioRay on October 14, 2013, 01:38:09 AM
Was this an oops, a test a warning from a cyber-warfare unit of a at might be done to destroy much of America from within, using the race problems as a weapon?

De RadioRay. ...-   .-
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: KK0G on October 14, 2013, 08:51:11 AM
All the pieces for a shitstorm are already in place; generations of people raised to believe that government owes them; consequently these same people have done ZERO preparation to take care of themselves; the entire EBT system is completely reliant on a computerized system; and finally practically every grocery store in the nation works on a "just in time" inventory delivery system which it self is completely reliant on a computerized system and the delivery trucks with their computerized system. It's all a very fragile system that requires perfect balance to continue to operate, if any piece of the system fails the whole thing crashes.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: raybiker73 on October 14, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
There was a great piece about this incident over at Ace of Spades today. It's well worth a read:

http://minx.cc/?post=344137 (http://minx.cc/?post=344137)

Civil unrest is as valid a reason to prep as any, maybe even more so. It's also a blunt reminder that the two pillars on which all your prepping rest are OpSec and Secrecy. Once the shelves are bare at Wally World, and if people know your pantry is full, guess where they'll be heading next.

Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: KK0G on October 14, 2013, 10:36:00 PM
"This story reminds me of the old saying that when you owe the bank a thousand dollars and can't pay it back, you have a big problem; when you owe the bank amillion dollars and can't pay it back, the bank has a big problem."
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Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: Quietguy on October 15, 2013, 12:05:35 AM
Quote from: raybiker73 on October 14, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
Civil unrest is as valid a reason to prep as any, maybe even more so.

Absolutely - you want the ability to decide for yourself not to venture out for any reason and not have to worry about getting needed supplies.  If your pantry is deep enough you can put off resupply until things calm down.  Riots, hurricanes, floods, snowstorms, etc are not the time to discover you just ran out of ____  and need to make a store run.

People everywhere would do well to plan as if they were in California where the four seasons are Fire, Flood, Earthquake and Riot.

Wally
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: raybiker73 on October 15, 2013, 01:40:48 AM
Quote from: Quietguy on October 15, 2013, 12:05:35 AM
People everywhere would do well to plan as if they were in California where the four seasons are Fire, Flood, Earthquake and Riot.

Wally

That reminds me of the old (and true) joke about Pennsylvania, where our four seasons are Almost Winter, Winter, Still Winter and Surface Of The Sun.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: KC9TNH on October 15, 2013, 07:37:20 AM
Quote from: RadioRay on October 14, 2013, 01:38:09 AM
Was this an oops, a test a warning from a cyber-warfare unit of a at might be done to destroy much of America from within, using the race problems as a weapon?

De RadioRay. ...-   .-
+1 There are people whose whole post-secondary education - years - is spent in the finest technical institutions, sponsored by the government, nurtured, valued & rewarded in the 'West Point' of cyberwar, honing their skills. Did I mention Beijing among others? A corporate site managing a critical aspect of the American trough, rather than a government-hardened site, must have looked like a grapefruit-sized hanging curve ball to Roger Maris, with "hit me" written all over it.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: Joe on October 15, 2013, 03:29:32 PM
This was a Test, ONLY A TEST !!!


States across the country are being told to stop the supplemental nutrition assistance program for the month of November, pending further notice.

http://fox13now.com/2013/10/14/utah-families-on-food-stamps-could-be-cut-off-soon/
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: KC9TNH on October 15, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
They have been focused on insuring that mom & pop America "feel the pain" (which you're supposed to blame on a particular political opponent) and now they have upped the ante to make sure their constituency is gonna get energized. Things are about to get sporty.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: RichardSinFWTX on October 15, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu126/RESlusher/Graphics/Joker_zps5ff68b27.jpg)

:o
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: raybiker73 on October 15, 2013, 11:38:34 PM
I'm thinking it was definitely a planned warm-up. Check this out:

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/15/wz-exclusive-usda-warns-states-to-begin-withholding-snap-benefits-for-november/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/15/wz-exclusive-usda-warns-states-to-begin-withholding-snap-benefits-for-november/)
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: Geek on October 16, 2013, 09:18:35 AM
 I won't miss it.   :)
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: KK0G on October 16, 2013, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Geek on October 16, 2013, 09:18:35 AM
I won't miss it.   :)


Nor will I or most any of us here I assume.................. at least not directly. Unfortunately the side effects could have a HUGE impact on all of us.
Title: Re: EBT Outage
Post by: cockpitbob on October 16, 2013, 10:54:56 AM
Remember those old movies where someone down on their luck was offered money and they got insulted and indignent and fired back angerly with "I don't need your charity!  I can stand on my own two legs!"  It's been a long time since I've seen a movie scene like that :-\