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General Category => Morse Code => Topic started by: Rowsey1108 on July 10, 2018, 08:56:54 AM

Title: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Rowsey1108 on July 10, 2018, 08:56:54 AM
  I've been thinking about getting a CW Filter for my Yaesu FT-818 instead of buying a separate QRP CW transceiver. I saw 3 different Yaesu ones but not sure which one would be the best. Does anyone have experience with any of them?


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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: RadioRay on July 10, 2018, 12:06:50 PM
I work CW almost exclusively and had the narrowest (250Hz) filter in my FT817s through the years. It made the 817 into a very good CW transceiver.  I highly recommend it for CW operators.

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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Rowsey1108 on July 10, 2018, 12:10:51 PM
Good to hear! I'm assuming that's the narrowest band? Why would someone choose one of the other two filters for the Yaesu?
  I've got a leg mounted straight key I plan on using with the setup. Thanks for the reply.


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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: gil on July 10, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
I think around 400Hz works great.
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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Jon_Garfio on July 10, 2018, 05:42:52 PM
I bought for my 817 a 455khz filtre CW.
Works great and makes the rig runs well on cw Mode.

However 817/818 is not a good plattform for morse Code, in fact, I sold it and get a Elecraft K2.



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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Rowsey1108 on July 10, 2018, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: gil on July 10, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
I think around 400Hz works great.
Gil

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Thank you for the feedback.


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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Rowsey1108 on July 10, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Quote from: Jon_Garfio on July 10, 2018, 05:42:52 PM
I bought for my 817 a 455khz filtre CW.
Works great and makes the rig runs well on cw Mode.

However 817/818 is not a good plattform for morse Code, in fact, I sold it and get a Elecraft K2.



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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Sparks on July 11, 2018, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jon_Garfio on July 10, 2018, 05:42:52 PMHowever 817/818 is not a good plattform for morse Code, in fact, I sold it and get a Elecraft K2.

Please tell us more. I am considering selling my two years old and unused FT817ND.

Why do you consider it not a good platform for Morse code (CW)?
Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: gil on July 11, 2018, 12:50:54 PM
The Elecraft K2 only comes as a kit. You can find used ones. It is an 80-10m CW transceiver, which can be extended to 160m and SSB. There is even a 100W option. Power is 14W. I built one a few years ago and it is an excellent radio for CW. The receiver is very sensitive and had good filtering. It is not a particularly difficult kit but takes a long time to build because of the number of components. Elecraft still sells it but my guess is that 2018 might be its last year... Let's hope not... It does cost a lot new but is worth every penny.

QuoteWhy do you consider it not a good platform for Morse code (CW)?
Probably because you need to buy an extra filter for CW, and the receiver isn't as sensitive. I never used one but I suspect it does work fine, just not as well as an Elecraft. No other radio offers as much in such a small package though.

Gil.
Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Jon_Garfio on July 11, 2018, 12:52:07 PM
817 is a swiss army knife, has all but no good in nothing.

If you are not a ultra fan of CW, perhaps 817 runs fine for your propuse but in my case, the 99.9% of HF QSO are CW mode, I want more performance, selectivity and tools to make posible better contacts.

Quote from: Sparks on July 11, 2018, 12:46:45 PM
Please tell us more. I am considering selling my two years old and unused FT817ND.

Why do you consider it not a good platform for Morse code (CW)?


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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: caulktel on July 11, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
I feel like have to defend the FT-817 :D I love my FT-817ND but I only use it for SSB and I'm very happy with the performance. I do have the Inrad SSB filter installed. YMMV.

Joel
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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: gil on July 11, 2018, 01:59:16 PM
I don't think the 817 needs defending. It is no doubt a great radio.
Gil

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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: CroPrepper on July 13, 2018, 03:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jon_Garfio on July 11, 2018, 12:52:07 PM
817 is a swiss army knife, has all but no good in nothing.


That's what its all about when getting a radio for preparedness. It's good for establishing contacts with low power drain, key factor. It's small, lightweight and ultraportable, but you still have HF VHF and UHF and all the modes you can wish for.
Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Jon_Garfio on July 13, 2018, 03:12:17 AM
Yes, You got the right about It.
In fact, when I sold my 817, I bought a VHF rig plus the Elecraft because I want both bands.

With 817 you have all-in-one multi propose.

Anyway, if you become a cw fanatic, You need a high level performance rig than 817.
Quote from: CPR on July 13, 2018, 03:06:59 AM
That's what its all about when getting a radio for preparedness. It's good for establishing contacts with low power drain, key factor. It's small, lightweight and ultraportable, but you still have HF VHF and UHF and all the modes you can wish for.

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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: CroPrepper on July 13, 2018, 04:02:09 AM
From Hamradio view that is surely true. but in SHTF I think most of the radio users will be SSB and not CW. The best thing is to know CW that's for sure. But the majority can't decipher it unfortunately. Sorry for offtopic.
Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: gil on July 13, 2018, 04:07:40 AM
I think that will be true at the beginning, when everyone still has charged batteries... After a couple weeks I think mostly QRP radios will remain on the air, which means more CW rigs.
Gil

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Title: Re: Yaesu CW Filters
Post by: Rowsey1108 on July 13, 2018, 04:17:09 AM
Good point


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