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General Category => Technical Corner => Topic started by: gil on June 07, 2016, 07:21:42 PM

Title: Need help with audio impedance matching.
Post by: gil on June 07, 2016, 07:21:42 PM
Hello,

Say I have a H-250/U military handset I want to build an adapter for to use on regular amateur radio gear...

Mic impedance: 150 Ohm.
Mic output, loud whistle: 2.5mV.
Speaker impedance: 1000 to 1500 Ohm.

How do I match impedance? Audio transformer?
Do I need a mic preamp?

I would love a schematic! Thanks.

Gil.
Title: Re: Need help with audio impedance matching.
Post by: cockpitbob on June 07, 2016, 10:04:33 PM
Gil, do you have Mouser or DigiKey or Radio Shack there in France?

For the speakers, a little audio impedance matching transformer will work.  They convert 8 Ohms to 1K Ohms.  You don't need an exact match.  The transformer's bandwidth is voice only (300Hz to a little over 3KHz), but that's just what you need.
Amazon has some.  Can't embed the link so here's the long form link.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-3-4KHz-Primary-Resistance-Rating/dp/B00R5C8NQY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_328_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41cDCALu%2BEL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=19E55JNY1XBM6TT5DKNN
Radio Shack used to sell them too, but they look out of stock everywhere.


Caveat emptor:  I'm a little weak microphones for ham radio.   
There are 2 main types of mics.  They need different electronics in the radio.
1) dynamic:  basically a loud speaker working backwards.
2) electret:  a piezo element generating charge. These need a voltage applied to them but put out 100x more signal than a dynamic.

I just did some digging and it seems some ham radios are designed for electret mics (some Icoms, at least) but it looks like most use dynamic mics.  My Yaesu MH-31 mic has a 190 Ohm impedance.  Since your mic reads 150 Ohms it's probably a dynamic mic. and the impedance should be fine.  The only way to know if you'll need an amplifier is to try it.





Title: Re: Need help with audio impedance matching.
Post by: Rescue9 on June 08, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
In Europe, try Newark / Farnell
Title: Re: Need help with audio impedance matching.
Post by: gil on June 09, 2016, 03:56:53 AM
Thanks guys, I'll have to give it a try!

Gil